my first attempt
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Posted on Oct 20, 2006 07:12 pm
saithan
Member Since: Oct 20, 2006
Hello, I'm new here, althought I have been lurking about picking up a great deal of learning from reading the posts on this forum as well as raping the tips section.
I thought I stop lurking and start participating.
anyways I been getting into classical symphonics and since I have access to a symphony virtual instruments will do.
here is my first attempt at composing something symphonic also my first attempt at mastering the recording (Need more practice though).
espritdecorps.byethost14....s-master-02.mp3
always open for sugestions and tips.
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 20, 2006 08:40 pm Welcome to HRC, glad your not lurking anymore. Nice to have another classical composer in our midst. I had a quick listen to your piece and found it very interesting and well put together. Short but sweet as they say.
The movements were a little repetative at first but that isnt the main thing on the first try. You have a good basis to work from so I am sure in time you will get a grip on the full firtual instrument thing.
The solo violyn was a little thin sounding, but that is something that is hard to pull of depending on the firtual instrument you are using. Which I should ask at this point. What are you using for your orchestral instruments? They sound pretty good for the most part.
As for the violyn I would maybe touch it just the smallest amount with a very lite small room reverb. And one thing that might thicken it up a little is a little added EQ on the lower mid side.
I'll give it another listen tommorrow as I am not concentrating all that well this evening.
And welcome once again, hope you enjoy your stay.
Noize
Oct 20, 2006 09:06 pm the virtual instruments are Motu MSI.
they are not perfect but they are excellent for the price.
I wasn't thinking at the time of the recording to eq just the violin track. I tried to thicken it from the premaster but then the chello became way over bearing. I will try redoing it again and see what happends.
thanks for the tips.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 20, 2006 09:11 pm OK, never tried the MOTU software yet. sounds good though.
And indeed I would work the violyns track completely seperate before doing and mastering on the final mix.
Oct 20, 2006 09:14 pm Welcome Saithan! I listened to your classical piece tonight and read your profile. No one's too old to be of use in a band, dude! Old farts rule! Well, anyway...
How are you putting this production together?
=Bob=
Oct 20, 2006 10:01 pm I'm using Motu MSI Vsti plugins with cubase and recording track by track with a e-mu 61 midi keybaoard controler. then small mistake edits using the cubase piano roller.
the piece is stacked harmonies in c harmonic minor (I think).
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 20, 2006 10:53 pm I gotta agree about the being old part. I've been playing, writing and learning this art for the last 40 plus years. I was around before the synthisizer was. And honestly never dreamed of the day I would replace all my hardware with software versions of the analog synths I grew up on. I still get into every type of music on this planet, with the exception of new country. So never say your to old for rock and roll, or whatever. If it were not for music and my gear, I'd be sitting in a rocking chair teetering back and forth.
Oct 20, 2006 11:14 pm Don't knock the rockin' chairs, dude... :)
Oct 20, 2006 11:19 pm oh, I never ment it to sound that way.
I just ment that I have a day job that I like but it takes away from playing out. So rather than play out, I let creativity out on weekends in my home studio.
I came from the world of guitar and keyboard is very new to me. over time I'll end up owning vintage sounds. but for starting out I have chosen the software route out of practicality.
Oct 20, 2006 11:22 pm Just havin' a bit of fun with it... no worries...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 21, 2006 12:11 am saithan, I honestly have parted with all but a couple pieces of synth gear. I have about 6 hardware modules left. All analog stuff has been replaced by software versions of the old gear. And honestly, I am much happier. I do miss the twiddling of the knobs and sliders. But the software now allows me to create new patches so much faster, and go even father with the sounds then I ever cold have gone on the hardware. And programming the synth modules, well I wont even get into that one at all. Have you ever tried writing patch data in a 1/2" x 2 1/2" window? Its not easy. And even after writing my own control panels for tweaking them in software it is still now easy task. But with the newer software, it is a brease. Everything is right under your mouse, or even knobs and sliders if you own a decent controller.
Oct 21, 2006 12:38 am i'm so very new to using synth. I'd have to say though I've been involved with music for over 30 yrs. I have only started working with synths and midi for about 2 weeks. before that the only thing in midi that I knew was controler switch operations with my guitar procesors.
I have to admit though in these last 2 weeks I can say that I'm rather hooked. hooked enough to purchase cubase and motu msi and ethno. and raided whatever free VSTIs I can find on kvr audio web site.
as far as programming sound modules that is not my area of programming however, I have recived the steinburg vst SDK kit and have multiple compilers in house. so in the next few weeks as I get time I will be looking towards developing free VSTs
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 21, 2006 01:27 am Keep us posted on what you come up with. I have moer software synths then I can shake a stick at and am always looking for more. Each one seems to have a unique quality to it if you tweak long enough on it.
Oct 21, 2006 09:38 am That is my goal too! I'm so worried that one of my hardware synths is going to die. Don't even know where I'd send my Kurzweil, maybe to Sweetwater or something. Nobody local, that's for sure...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 21, 2006 10:12 pm If your Kurzweil does pass out on ya we have a local outfit here I have used since I was a teenager. Their called Good Guys and they were the only place I trusted with my analog synths, in fact most all of my gear. Depending on the situation they can take their sweet time. But I never had to wait when it was an urgent non replacable piece of gear I couldn't rent a duplicate of.
But they are the absolute geek guru's of the hardware world. I haven't had one piece of gear no matter how obscure they couldn't fix.
Oct 21, 2006 10:34 pm Wow, thanks Noize! That's really reassuring. I know it's not antique gear yet, but you know, made in Germany and all, ya never know one minute to the next if Europe is even going to exist!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 21, 2006 10:48 pm Yep the europian stuff can be tuff to find a repair shop for. They were the only place I knew of that could fix my Kelsey console back in the day.
Oct 21, 2006 11:05 pm And this is why we want to move over to all software synths! It's the only reasonable solution. To fix the stupid computer or replace it is pretty cheap...
