Sep 19, 2006 05:42 pm it's my understanding that thin dish towels were draped over his snare and toms... also initially the logo on the kick was cloth stretched infront of the bass head which also helped dampen the sound.
ringo starr
Posted on Sep 19, 2006 01:08 pm
Clansonkid
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Member Since: Mar 05, 2003
many people have the opinion that ringo was the weakest link to the beatles. however i think thats a load of crap and i was wondering how the heck he tunes his snare to get that certain crack?
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Sep 19, 2006 05:42 pm it's my understanding that thin dish towels were draped over his snare and toms... also initially the logo on the kick was cloth stretched infront of the bass head which also helped dampen the sound.
Sep 19, 2006 09:40 pm Holy Crap...when I saw your topic title I thought that maybe Ringo had died or something! I'm glad to hear he's still alive and kickin' (pun intended.)
I agree that Ringo was a great drummer...the poster child for "less is more". A very under-rated Beatle, some of his solo work stands right up there with the other three.
Of course, I have no idea how he gets that "crack"...
Jim
Sep 19, 2006 09:58 pm ...plus he got to hang out with Rachel Welch :0
Sep 19, 2006 10:07 pm And he was on shiny time station!
But no idea about his drum tunings, sorry.
Sep 20, 2006 06:09 am Haa! I forgot about that shiny time station. That was funny.
I also agree that his contribution to the beatles was important.
Sep 20, 2006 07:01 pm Oh indeed he was a very under rated drummer. He kept impecable time, and as stated kept it simple. Less is more indeed holds true with him, and he was very good at it. I believe it was Phil Colins that stated once Ringo could eat a sandwich while playing and not miss a beat. Steady and simple.
As for the snare sound. I believe a good eal of it came from the snare size, a picalo snare. But as well Sir George had a good deal to do with the sound they captured as well. If I'm not mistaken he would absolutely saturate the drum track. In other words over load and keep it in the red.
Sep 20, 2006 07:30 pm I too have heard the towel theorum. I actually play my drums this way a lot of the time.
I've also heard that although the beatles sometimes miced the drums individually, many times it was one or two room mics.
Ringo was perfect for what the Beatles were doing. He had a healthy understanding of pop and an uncanny ability to know when to shut up. In My Life is a great example of that.
Sep 21, 2006 11:09 am I was watching a local band and the snare sounded brill,cut through everything with the tuning just right.I said to the drummer"that snare's fantastic what are you miking it with"He said nothing, cause if I mike it its too loud.It was a deep military snare,amazing.
Sep 21, 2006 01:25 pm old skool field drums are the bagpipes of the musical world :)
I got to play an antique one borrowed from the local Army Band for a small parade ... it was cool.. had catgut on both bottom and top heads...
Sep 29, 2006 10:24 am If you want to learn anything and everything there is to know about how The Beatles captured different sounds, this is a must read for any recording enthusiest...Here, There, and Everywhere. It's written by Geoff Emerick, who was the assistant to George Martin, or the sound engineer. Geoff was involved in almost all of the Beatles recordings, especially from Revolver on forward. It was Geoff's responsibility to create the sounds that George Martin and The Beatles were after. John would say, "Make me sound like the Dhali Lama standing on top of a cliff...etc." Then Geoff would have to find a way to make it happen. It's an awesome awesome book. All back in a day before there were the millions of effects and amp models...the creativity all these guys had in the studio is just astounding. Everybody involved in this site should read this book at least once a year. It's definitely a motivator, and it kind of frees your mind from the normal ruts we tend to fall in. It will expand your thinking in the studio.
Sep 29, 2006 10:30 am One more thing. Geoff gets pretty detailed on how he mic'd Ringos drums and all the different types of techniques he tried in the studio that were at the time, against Abbey Road Studio rules and guidelines. Most of the time he had to sneak things around without anybody knowing so he wouldn't get fired. ie. micing the drums too close to get a big drum sound, stuffing the bass drum with pillows and towels, placing the mic in a condom, then placing it in a glass of water, placing the mic behinde John's head...all sorts of crazy stuff. Some worked, some didn't. But it gets your brain thinking, "What else can I try to make it sound different." Go buy the book. All of you.
Jun 22, 2010 04:40 pm i have a ludwig snare from the 60s (it was my dads set) and i have 2 peral and a yamaha and my dad gave my his set 2 yrs ago. i personally hate the sound of that snare---my friend has a first act one and it sounds better---iv tried retuning, and muffling it hundreds of times. so when i join this beatles tribute band i bought a used yamaha steel off ebay to replace the one from my yahama (it had been kicked off stage <unintintanly>) it had new remo emporer heads on it. it sounded so good i dicited to experimint with it. on about the hundreth depth tone i decided if it would sound like ringos, so i get a calfskin head and a very worn out tshirt and put it on there, and 3rd hit it sounded EXACTLY like his. and when i miked it-it still had that sound!!!! so about a month later i tale it in to practice and they thought it was gay until they herd it now theyv bought me classic BOP
Jun 22, 2010 08:12 pm Hey Austin, welcome to HRC! Glad to have an experimenter joining the boards. Thanks for sharing your technique. Stick around man! Hopefully we've got some knowledge to exchange!
Jun 22, 2010 09:15 pm If anyones still wondering, he used to tape a pack of ciggarettes to the top of his snare.... Towels were used on the toms for Çome Together' I believe...
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