Getting the BPM!!!!!!

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Member Since: Jan 12, 2004

Folks

Does anyone have a quick and reliable way to glean the BPM from a non-midi track i.e. says I have our drummer on my song, and I wanna get the BPM so I Can do maybe a remix or somethin, how would I grab that BPM???

Tried a few things, none ideal...less than vintge and all help, much appreciated!!

Coco

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Jul 29, 2006 02:15 pm

there are "tap tempo" programs out there... basically it's a button you click on each beat as you listen to a song... often used in delay plugins...

Hello!
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Jul 29, 2006 02:18 pm

Ah, nice one Zek. I'll maybe just tap the beats into the drum machine I have - that outa do it. Nice one bud.

Coco.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 29, 2006 02:18 pm

Here is one with a free demo. www.bpmdetectorpro.com/ Scroll down to see it.

And here is a google page with several you have to tap to get to work. Probably not real accurate, but worth a shot to get at least close.
www.google.com/search?q=B...:en-US:official

I will look to see what else there is.

Did you try KvR yet?

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Jul 29, 2006 03:17 pm

www.analogx.com/contents/...io/taptempo.htm is a tap tempo thingy

Czar of Midi
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Jul 30, 2006 12:45 pm

Oh, forgot about them.

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Jul 30, 2006 01:26 pm

The only one I've found that comes very close is AutoBPM. Tap ones are fine for getting in the ball park but good luck lining anything up with the value they come up with and have it stay in time.

With this one you can get very close (within less than 1 bpm), then you just need to beat match the part which is pretty easily done in AA, don't know about other DAW software but I imagine it wouldn't be particularly difficult.

www.pyramidedata.dk

Dan


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Jul 30, 2006 05:10 pm

OD, did that actually work in Win XP? I tried it once and it didnt seem to work. I wonder if it was the older version I was using though. I mihgt have to give it a shot.

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Jul 30, 2006 05:15 pm

Works fine in XP. The trickiest part is just making sure your getting a signal to it. It's easy with SB's and such, but my Delta I have to make sure I'm routing the output back to the input because there's no "What You Hear" option on recording.

I just tried it on my new song and it hit the bpm within .3bpm consistently.

Dan

Czar of Midi
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Jul 30, 2006 05:34 pm

Well then thankfully I still have the old SB in my surf box and can use that. It sure would save me a ton of time when beat matching. I just wish my old analog beat counter had not taken a crap, that thing was spot on every time.

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Jul 31, 2006 06:30 am

Guys

Noize and OldDog - cheers for these. Of the two, I would prefer this one that does the work for ya so OldDog my man, I'll DEFO be checking that one out later.

I use Cubase SX2 so hopefully, it'll play ball and I also have a Delta so, it should work.

Indeed, this is just what I need.

I really want to start doing some remixes of our songs (the band) and my own. I wanna try and remix in different styles (in the same way the good folks done for me with my song not so long ago) and I havent really done any dance type music stuff so, its all new.

But, I do have plenty good synths plundered from KVR, a veritable gold mine...though, I am unsure as to how to make these trancey type sounds - I cant explain it, its like a sound, permanently chopped (bit like the sound on the guitar on teh start of the Green Day song - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams) - in fact, any help on that too, would be good!!

But again, cheers for this one guys...I'll check it out.

Cheers

Coco.

Czar of Midi
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Jul 31, 2006 07:31 pm

coco, the effect is similar to or possibly done with a tremelo type effect. You can do that with a filter section as well by choosing the proper wave type to oscilate the amplitude/volume of the sound. If doing it with a filter he simply would turn off or down the rezonance to let the real guitar sound come through cleaner. There are tons of variations on the tremelo out there now that will do all kinds of cool sounding things to audio.

As for the trancey type sounds. A lot of the synths at KVR, especially some of the ones made with Synth Edit were designed around the trance stuff.

Go to Cakewalks website and feast yer eyes on the Rapture and try the download of the free demo. It is directly marketed at Trance type stuff. And has a butt load of presets ready to go. Not cheap, but it is probably the best sounding synth directed at that catagory I have heard yet.

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Jul 31, 2006 10:03 pm

You shouldn't have any problems using it coco. Just remember it gets it's input from recording side, so if like me you have your mixer setup for monitoring and you don't pipe whats playing back into the computer it won't have any input to work with. That's why the SB's AC97's etc, are easier they have "What You Hear" or "Wave" for recording input. Actually I think the Delta's control panel would let you patch it but I haven't figured out or messed with it enough to get the patching to work.

I have to go thru the same thing to use the guitar tuner on my computer.

Dan

Dan

Czar of Midi
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Jul 31, 2006 10:49 pm

OD, I think your right on being able to route the Delat that way. I will have a go tommorrow as I'm off early.

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Aug 02, 2006 01:07 am

If you figure it out be sure and let me know, sure make using the tuner quicker and easier. I've played around with it a bit but I've never gotten it to do anything.

Dan

Czar of Midi
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Aug 02, 2006 07:07 pm

Hadnt gotten to it yet. I will let you know though as soon as I get to try it.

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