New Song.. WIP Time for You to Go

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Here's the first rough take on my new song. The vocals are really rough, they're only there so my son has something to go on for adding the solo's/fills. I thought I'd post it since I haven't released anything in months and the final of this is probably still a month or better away.

I'm still fleshing out the harmonies, and working on getting the range for the lead vocal, I'm almost there and I think if I really cut loose I can do it.

Any suggestions, comments are appreciated there's alot I'm planning on doing like adding a few bars for the intro, cutting the asending guitar part after the first verse/chorus, choping off some of the end etc, to get the time down under 4 minutes.

Did I mention this is really rough? Anywho I'd really like to know what everyone thinks of the song so here it is...

Time for You to Go:

www.smokinhq.com/startingover/music/test2b.mp3

New Mix: 8/8 www.smokinhq.com/startingover/music/t4u2go-b1.mp3

Possible Final: 10/22/06

www.smokinhq.com/starting...u2go092906c.mp3

Here's the lyrics so far for those interested:

Time for You To Go!
Copyright 2006 Dan Epp

I tried to call you but it's the same old thing
You weren't at home again
And When I see you, You say You're out with friends
but I ain't that blind I can see that your lyin'

Everybody looks at me so strange, cause they can't explain
Why I don't stop playing your games guess I'm hoping you'll see
You can't keep walking on me

Pre Chorus
And I want you to know
You better get this one right
Cause there's just one thing to say you're driving me insane

Chorus
I think it's time for you to go now
Time for you to go
I think it's time for you to go now. o-h Time for you go!

It doesn't matter, I' left you far behind
And you wondered why
I found another, and she's not like you
Yeah you made your choice, won't do any good cryin'

Everybody looks at you so strange, cause they can't explain
Why you didn't stop playing your games, you were hoping I'd still
Let you make a fool of me

Pre Chorus 2
And I want you know
You know I ain't that slow
There's just one thing to say, You better get it straight

Chorus
I think it's time for you to go now
Time for you to go
I think it's time for you to go now. o-h Time for you go!


Thanks for listening,

Dan

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Czar of Midi
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Jul 23, 2006 07:59 pm

Indeed that is way to kool. Even in rough form it sounds great. I liked the harmony structure you got started wtih on this one. Dont stray to far from that if you ask me. On the last line of the chorus you might try the Time for you to go! while the o-h is still going instead of waiting and having it be a fast vocal phrase. Like starting it just a tiny bit earlier and slowing it down a bit. I think the blending of the o-h part with that bit would sound really cool. Just my 2 cents on that though.

Did you play the drums straight up on this one? They sure dont have a programed feel at all, nice live feel to them. And the guitars kind of make the tune sound a little more intense, but still a bit of pop feel to them. Just a tiny bit of grit to make it rack. Again this tune could easily have come from the late 60's or early 70's, but still sound fresh today.

Cant wait to hear what you do to finish this one. I'll keep listening for anything else that comes to mind.

Loved the drums on the ending as well.

Noize

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Jul 23, 2006 08:59 pm

Classic OldDog! This a great song! Yes, the lead vocal is rough, but everything else is top-notch! I have always loved your innovative chord progressions, and the intricate harmonies that you come up with as a result of your chords used.

As mentioned, the drumming is great!

I can't think of one dang thing that would make this any better! Belt out that lead vocal for me one more time and you'll have yourself a hit!

It's going right into the OldDog playlist on my iPod!

Jim

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Jul 23, 2006 10:03 pm

Thanks Noize! I will definitley try your suggestion on the chorus, I think it would sound pretty cool as well. Yep I played the drums on the song, wasn't very long ago I couldn't dream of doing one this fast, it feels to good be making head way learning to play them. I ended up injuring my left hand doing that take though. The whole bottom part of my hand along with my ring finger & pinky were numb for nearly 2 weeks, still is slightly so I haven't gotten my perfect take for it yet. Then to top it off while I was working on the melody & harmonies, by the time I finished the takes that's on this my throat was shot so I have to lay off of vocals for a few days. This music making business is rough work. LOL

Dan

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Jul 23, 2006 10:10 pm

Thanks much Jim, I appreciate the kind words and the spot on your iPod! I'm going to try re-doing the vocals in a few days (see above post ;) I'm sure I can do it and in fact did a couple of times but not in a salvageable take, that pre chorus is a killer. LOL

I trusted HarBals ears on this one but does it seem a bit bass heavy to you (or anybody else) I did add back a bit of highs, but I'm always afraid I'm going to over do it cause I have some hearing loss in those important frequencies.

Dan

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Jul 23, 2006 10:50 pm

Not too bass heavy here OD.

And injury playing, indeed. When I was playing drums fulltime for awhile I was the clumsiest drummer at times. I did the pinky smack more then I care to think about. I would always end up with a black and blue pinky for some dumb reason. I tried gong with the traditional drumstick hold and that just never worked for me, so it was always suffer the bruise.

Now on the electric kit it isnt so bad. But you can still get smacked pretty good.

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Jul 24, 2006 12:16 am

I think what I did was let the butt end of the stick wack my palm too much. I don't know if you watched the VH1 Super Group series or not but Jason Bonham did the same thing I did so I don't feel so dumb. LOL Reading around at various drum websites I see it not an uncommon problem, think I'm going to look into getting a pair of the sticks that have a cushioned grip or get some of those gloves with no fingers. I've nailed my pinky a few times too. LOL

On the bass heavy thing that's good to hear. This is just a rough mix but I still want it to sound as good as possible. Harbal is a lifesaver no doubt about it for me, if I used just my ears I'd be back to a transitor radio sound. <G>

Dan

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Jul 24, 2006 05:19 pm

Ya, I saw that super group thing. Very interesting, and kind of odd to watch someone who is a superstar in their own right drooling over the likes of Ted the Red. To see Scott Ian paying homage to Ted was great, but watching Sebastian do the I'm Not Worthy thing and bow down was kinda over the top. I did however think Jason and Evan both got a little snotty at times. But the Nuge definately pushed all their buttons at just the right moments.

As for the glove thing. They definately help a lot. They take some getting used to, but are almost easier to get used to then the padded stix. I tried them as well and found them kind of clumsy to use on the electric kit.

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Jul 24, 2006 06:06 pm

Just had a listen OD, thanks for posting this one. This is definitely a great one, very worthy of further development!

At first I had a very punk-ish vibe, but by the 2nd chorus I was enjoying the Brian Wilson-ish feeling that the background vocals added.

I like the guitar tone on this one, searing midrange and very present in the mix. I actually like the ascending 6ths after the 1st chorus. That's kind of a key time during an energetic song to keep the energy going.

Definitely not bass-heavy on my system either, and I've got it on a setting that usually exaggerates the bass so if anything in my opinion the bass could come up some. I just like to feel the lows thru my subwoofer so I'm a bit biased towards 'more bass' hehe.

Overall a great job as usual. Keep us posted on the progress, and for goodness' sake, don't hurt yourself :D

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Jul 24, 2006 10:46 pm

I gotta hand it to old Ted He can still wail on that guitar, they all did a great job with that concert. It was a pretty interesting series a little over the top at times but. I agree Jason & Evan were a bit snotty at times especially Evan. Quite a feat to pull of though if they really did it in 12 weeks.

I think I'll give the gloves a go first, I definitley don't want to do any permanent damage to the nerves in hands.

Dan

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Jul 24, 2006 11:00 pm

Thank you for checking it Tad! Yeah the backing vocals I started out with just 3rds but wasn't too happy with it, then I tried adding 5th's, but the 5ths can only be used in certain parts so ended up doing takes with the VW using 3rds then addtional takes using the 5ths. Should be alot better when I do them for the final cause I'm more certain which base notes I need to hit to get the right harmony.

I hope the guitars aren't too searing but I wanted to really keep them dominant in the mix but everything else was fighting tooth & nail to tame them down. LOL

I think I'm going to boost the bass just wee bit, cause today it sounds like it could use more to me. I'm anxious to see what my Son comes up with for the solo.

"and for goodness' sake, don't hurt yourself :D"

That's what happens when your my age and try using muscles you haven't used in years. <G> Up to this point though I'd just have aching arms, shoulders, or shin etc., I must have really been wackin' that snare harder than I thought.

Dan

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Jul 25, 2006 04:06 pm

Great rocker! I'm listening to it on build-in speakers in a monitor at the moment and I don't hear any bass, but I like the raw guitarsound and in general it's very catchy with vocals too, great groove you got going there..

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Jul 25, 2006 07:33 pm

Make sure and let us know when the final is up. I cant wait to hear it.

Noize

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Jul 25, 2006 09:49 pm

Thanks Izzy, appreciate you checkin' it out and commenting. :) I'm itching to get it finished but my voice is still hoarse, so a few more days before I tackle the vocals again.

Noize, I'll post the final the minute it's done, you can be sure. :)

Dan

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Aug 09, 2006 12:20 am

I've put up a new mix with new vocals. Still having trouble on the pre-chorus, but it's getting there. I think I'm going to have to go with one of the variations of the pre-chorus that's on this mix, what I really want to do just sounds too strained right now.

The mix is killing me though, I don't know if my ears are on holiday or what but nothing sounds good, so I'd really like to get some feedback on this new mix.

www.smokinhq.com/startingover/music/t4u2go-b1.mp3

Link also in first post. :)


Dan

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Aug 09, 2006 06:03 am

Hey OD

I need to check this out - just spied the thread. I'll check out your new mix a little later tonight - currently at work with no speakers! Lookin forward to some new OD material, the last stuff was great and by all accounts, this is great too! Good....

Cheers bud

Coco

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Aug 09, 2006 05:37 pm

OD, I'm downloading it now. Will listen later this evening as the outlaws just arrived and dinner is being served.

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Aug 09, 2006 08:16 pm

OOOOOoooooo, coming along nicely. The harmonies are absolutely sweet sounding now. It makes me just want to say GROOVY! :-)

The mix is sounding pretty tight now, the bass is maybe still a little on the soft side here and there, but it is always present. The guitars although very mid heavy have a very thick sound for that type of tone, Very Thick!

Other then a few hic ups in the drums they sound very good as well. They fit the rest of the tone going on in the music.

I am indeed liking this one more as I listen to it more. You just have a way with getting the old school rock feel going.

Noize

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Aug 09, 2006 10:20 pm

Thanks for the feedback Noize. I'm going to be doing a new take for the drums soon and I have one more harmony part to add (the hi part in the chorus), just general retakes here and there. Still waiting on my son for the solo work.

Do you think I should add some hi & or lo freq's to the guitars? To me right now they border on very mud-range, but I don't want to get them too bright as well. I'm kinda thinking I need to redo them with less distortion? I killed a little bass that harbal added (that was the only change I made to it come to think of it), guess I'll add that back <G>

I really appreciate your taking the time to give feedback on this. I really want to make this song the best performance & mix I've done. All of my other stuff I've settled for good enough, time to move on. <G>

Dan

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Aug 09, 2006 10:27 pm

I'll have to give it another listen tommorrow, but I dont know that I would add much in the high end as you said, it might get too bright then. I dont know that I would call it muddy, at least here it doesnt sound like it is muddying up. But I'll listen to be more critical of the guitars tommorrow then for sure.

Another higher part on the vox, I cant wait to hear that one. And I forgot about the solo as well. This should be really good when it is finished.

Czar of Turd Polish
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Aug 09, 2006 10:45 pm

Wow, just gave this a first listen. Vocals are great, is that just you singing all those parts? Like noize said, the backups on the chorus are awesome.

I think the mix sounds really good overall, I can hear and differentiate all instruments including a very nice tone on the bass. I do not think your guitars sound muddy at all and my only suggestion would be giving them a tiny bit of lower end.

Even aside from the nice recording, that is some great songwriting. I'll have to scope more stuff on your profile. Since there is no two thumbs up icon, for now you get a ninja.

CptTripps

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Aug 09, 2006 11:15 pm

Thanks for the kind words CptTripps! I appreciate the feedback. I will indeed try adding a bit of low end to the guitars and see how it sounds.

It is me singing all the parts with the help of my Voiceworks for the hi harmony parts. There was a time when I could have done all the parts, but that was long ago. :) This is the 2nd song I've used it on and it's working out pretty well.

Dan

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Aug 10, 2006 01:14 pm

Most welcome! And what is this voiceworks you speak of? Gonna hit google now, but if it does what is coming out of my speakers, I may have to look into it.

*edit* Uggg, that's a spendy piece, I did notice they have a plugin version of harmony4 in the works, hopefully that will accomplish similar results and be cheaper as this musician has already spent his budget for the next ten years according to my wife :)

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Aug 10, 2006 02:32 pm

I like the oooh and aaah background vocals alot. I know that you know it's rough, so I'm not sure how much I should elaborate. I like the song as a whole though. It's very catchy, and ear pleasing. The main thing that was distracting was the rhythm guitar parts when it breaks down sounded off, timing wise (like at the start of the second verse). Some of the background harmonies sound off pitch a bit, and some sound dead on. Anyways, I'm looking forward to hear the finished version!

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Aug 10, 2006 06:16 pm

OD, I honestly dont think you have the distortion too high on the guitars. The drums and brass and high harmony parts are all clear, and they wouldn't be if the distortion was too much. On my rig they sound really good, thick and rich sounding for that kind of distortion. I really think the tone is what give it that kind of 70's rock feel.

If anything, you could play with the panning a little if you want to see if it gives it a clearer picture to you.

How many guitar tracks are there for those parts? And how do you have them panned on this mix?

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Aug 10, 2006 07:48 pm

Yep it was a bit pricey CptTripps, I probably never would have bought it for myself but my wife grabbed it for me for Christmas. I did get it though when it was $100 of + it came with an MXL 992 & 993 Condensor mic's. I still haven't really learned how to make full use of it yet but I'm learning :)

Dan

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Aug 10, 2006 07:51 pm

Hey thanks for checking it out coolo, and the feedback. I think what makes the guitars seem out of time in places is the drums, like at the start of the 2nd verse. Those are places I was gonna do a fill and changed my mind or didn't get the fill in when it should have been. <G> I do plan on retracking the whole thing as soon as I've figured out how I want everything to go.

Dan

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Aug 10, 2006 08:06 pm

Thanks Noize, if you think they sound good that's good enough for me! Things are sounding clearer to me now, maybe I just had a very mild head cold or something.

So far there's 2 guitars, left & right and they are panned about 70% l/r. I've panned them from about 30% - 90% and I keep coming back to 65%-70% for both. The sound I was really going after was similar to what you had on "God Only Knows" :) Matter of fact I've been using that whole mix as my target but it's been pretty elusive.

Dan


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Aug 10, 2006 08:45 pm

I'm honored OD that you would use that mix for comparison. In my eyes that was not one of my best mixes. But like we have all said before. Sometimes we are not the best judge of our own works.

If the guitars are only two tracks then that is one good sound you have set up. And if you have tried differant panning then I would stick with the one you come back to.

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Aug 11, 2006 01:37 pm

OK OD..finally got to check this out - VERY cool man..up there with yer best for sure.

The harmonies on the chours (Where the notes are kinda hanging as the lead vocal sings the part) - very cool and sounds top notch.

Drumming is the best I heard from you (specially on the chorus and into the pre-verse bits...cool.

Guitars, I like em. I see what you were saying about wanting more high end but I actually like em..ye could maybe mess with that. But, NOT needed..just as an experiment...sounds most vintage and cool tho.

A top track indeed man...cool stuff.

Awra best

Coco.

P.S. Am gonna get me one them harmoniser maker things ;-) ! Cool as hell

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Aug 11, 2006 11:32 pm

I think that mix is killer Noize, the guitars, drums, vox, everything just really kicks!

Other than the solo work my son is doing I don't know if I'm going to add any more guitars to it. I've been on a kinda clean & simple jag lately.

This one minus vocals is 4 tracks. The vox are taking up 6 tracks so far. LOL

Dan

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Aug 11, 2006 11:45 pm

Thanks for checking it out coco! I still have some more work to do but it's coming together pretty well me thinks. :) This weekend I'm going to really try and finish this one off.

The VW certainly is making more things possible for me. The hardest thing for me is you really have to sing clearly with good enunciation without slurring words etc, or the harmonies don't really sound very good. It's hard for me cause a lot of my singing is Beatle influenced, John in particular and that style just doesn't work very well with it, at least I haven't figured out how to make it work well like that. LOL

Dan


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Aug 12, 2006 05:16 pm

I agree with you OD, the guitars sound just fine as is. Like I said above, they are really thick sounding for the tone they are at. Especially since that is only 2 tracks of guitars. I cant wait to hear it with your sons solo in it as well.

Noize

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Oct 23, 2006 01:31 am

Well here's the possible final on this one. There's still things I'm not happy with but I've spent enough time on this one I think except for tweaks to the mix.

Whats New? Everything basically. :D I did a solo for it as well till my son has a chance to do a better one.

I appreciate anyone who isn't already tired of this one to give comments/suggestions on the mix or anything else that needs some work, Thanks much.

Time For You To Go:
www.smokinhq.com/starting...u2go092906c.mp3

Link was added to the original post as well.

Dan

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Oct 23, 2006 11:05 am

Hey Dan! This is mighty excellent! Love the guitars and the drums are totally cool. Harmonies nice and tight. Wish the lead vocal was just a little more out front, it dips a little behind everything once in a while when the band gets thicker and louder. Happens in the pre-chorus. Geeze, the guitar is wonderful...

I'm listening on headphones, so salt this: bass guitar could be louder.

Great song!

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Oct 23, 2006 06:11 pm

OD, I'm grabbing it now and will listen to it when I get back from scouts tonight.

Noize

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Oct 23, 2006 07:29 pm

Thanks much DungBeatle I appreciate the listen and comments alot. I will definitley be bring the vox & bass up a bit. This song has been along time in the making I'm glad you found it a good listen! :)

Dan

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Oct 23, 2006 07:46 pm

Totally so! and will listen again and again... Thumbs up, dude!

Czar of Midi
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Oct 23, 2006 08:54 pm

OD, that could easily be a TV or Movie theme. More likely TV theme, but not sure what kind of show it would be telling someone to go????

Anyway, man those harmonies are absolutely killer. And your vox fit the bill to a T! The drums are sounding great as well. I cant turn it up loudenough at the moment to get a good feel on the bass comment above, but I'll give it another shot tommorrow right after work and see how it sounds.

Otherwise the guitars are sounding killer as well. Man I love the sound you get. But the dang harmonies just keep me coming back for more. It just make sthe tune feel good all around.

And I dont think I would ever grow tired of this one. Very radio friendly, and easy to listen to. Gets you in a good mood. Matter of fact, I think I'm putting this one on CD with a couple of your other tunes just for the car.

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Oct 24, 2006 03:25 am

I don't know either Noize, a different theme perhaps would do the trick.

I appreciate all the suggestions you gave along the way. Alot of the sound of this one was inspired by your version & mix on "God Only Knows", I'm still in awe everytime I listen to it, it just hits nearly every one of my music buttons, matter of fact it's amazing how close the EQ curve in HarBal overlays your mix, but yours still sounds better to me, but I'm working at it. :)

Dan

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Oct 24, 2006 07:26 am

On first listen on the first mix I found myself thinking what 'fun' it must've been to mix them vox... still, it sounded like you had a very good idea to work with on 'em . The second listen on the last version proved y'a got a handle on this difficult set of vocal tracks... gets a little wierd at the end though, me thinks . Cool song fer sure ! Those tricky backing vocals are gon'na make it, or break it . Nice work OD !

Wha ?... no slide-solo ?! ; )

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Oct 24, 2006 04:46 pm

OD, it lies somewhere between the happy days them and the friends theme. Very good feeling to it like I said. I had a louder listen today, man those guitars are killer and the vocals as well sound really good loud. Needless to say, I was rockin in the chair with this one. And the bass sounded just fine on my rig, so I dont think I'd mess with that. And the lead, it has a nice line to it and doesn't distract from the harmony line. Very nice. Excelant tone on the guitar for that, cuts through without eating things up. I love that last stretched note, it just sings along so nicely.

Its almost like something from the 60's meets very early Weezer.

And again, I must say I'm very flattered that you find that mix intrigueing. I never thought of that one as one of my better moments to be honest. Maybe its becuase of all the crap tied around that song and the others produced along with it.

But as for this mix, I cant really find anything that sticks out as needing desperate attention.

Noize

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Oct 25, 2006 12:39 am

Hey thanks a bunch for the comments Hue! Yep no slide on this one. :D It took me a bit to get the backing vocals decent, I'm pretty happy with them, and the mixing was indeed 'fun' (read a bear lol), I'd still like to do them with a bit more oomph, I'm going to rework them at some point, but right now I've started on another new tune. :)

Dan

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Oct 25, 2006 12:55 am

I really appreciate all the listening you've done Noize, I respect your opinion alot so thanks much for that!

You mentioned Weezer and I had go give 'Buddy Holly' a spin. LOL One of my favorite songs.

I'd sure (still) like hear some more of those days from ya Noize, I think the thing that grabs me most is your vocals, man you had a great rock voice! :)

Dan

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Oct 25, 2006 08:14 pm

OD, when things calm down here a bit and I get a couple aritcles done for HRC I'll dig up a couple of the other tracks from those sesions.

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Oct 26, 2006 01:18 pm

Hey OD, sorry it took me so long to listen to your new mix of this one.

The mix really sounds nice and clean. I'd like to hear more drums, especially the snare...they get a little swallowed once the vocals, background vocals, guitars and everything gets going.

Love the backing vocals. I stand by my Brian Wilson comparison on this one. Have you ever listened to the band Of Montreal? This really reminds me of an album of theirs that I have. It's that Brian Wilson influence that brings it to my mind I think.

Great guitar work, and great guitar tone. I really like the remix, its a great improvement in all the right areas.

Very cool man, is one to be proud of!

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Oct 27, 2006 07:35 pm

Thanks Tad I appreciate your comments alot and taking the time to listen to the new mix! I'll have google that band and see what they sound like. I was thinking the same thing on the drums, I think I need to do volume envelopes on the drum track to bring them up when everything comes in cause they do get lost a bit.

Thanks again!

Dan

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Nov 09, 2006 09:23 am

im listening to the last version of it.
Love that oohhh oohhhh
Seems sorta Kinks/oais to me. the vocal layering is really good. everything is clear (in headphones at work at least) Perfect guitar sound for the song , id keep this version for sure
t4u2...u2go092906c.mp3 is the one i listend to.

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Nov 09, 2006 11:24 am

Hahaha I think I like "t4u2u2go982806c" as a working title for this song. It really captures the essence of the piece :D

Maybe try to work that into the chorus somewhere.

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Nov 10, 2006 05:51 pm

Hey thanks for for listening tonyd! Quite a few have mentioned this one has a Kink's sound to it, works for me! :D

Tad, I think that would be a mouthful trying to work that in. LOL

Dan

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