Jul 19, 2006 10:36 am your delta dosn't have an aes/ebu input....use your line 6's line outputs into your delta's input....as for the latencey, you gotta fiddle wiht the buffers a bit to get 'em just right...
Pod Pro into Delta 66 using Sonar 4 trouble. HELP
Posted on Jul 19, 2006 10:27 am
xChrisOfKnivesx
Member Since: Jul 19, 2006
Ok, so I just recently bought a new computer(3 ghz, 1gb ram, 160gb hd, etc), a delta 66 sound card, and am trying to input my Line 6 Pod Pro. When I tried to do this with Adobe Audition, I got no signal at all, so I went ahead and got Sonar 4 Producer Edition, and I was thrilled to find that it was receiving a signal, however, when I went to record and monitor, the latency is horrible, and when I increase that to faster, the quality is terrible. Another problem I have is that the AES/EBU digital out, doesn't get picked up at all in Sonar. Is there something I am doing wrong? The Pod Pro and Delta 66 manuals are no help at all.
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Jul 19, 2006 10:36 am your delta dosn't have an aes/ebu input....use your line 6's line outputs into your delta's input....as for the latencey, you gotta fiddle wiht the buffers a bit to get 'em just right...
Jul 19, 2006 10:40 am THe AES/EBU output on the pod is an xlr connection, so I was using a xlr to 1/4" into my delta input. That won't work? Also, when I use my balanced analog outs, which are also xlr->1/4", I get that sound quality problem and latency. I tried to vary the settings on the latency, and it always sounds like ****. It skips a lot and sounds completely out of tune.
Jul 19, 2006 10:47 am aes/ebu is digital (1's and 0's) and the line in/outs are analog, they are two totally different types of signals and are not compatable with eachother....
make sure your'e sample rate and bit depth are EXACTLY the same in your delta software AND in sonar.
Jul 19, 2006 11:19 am Also M-Audio's WDM drivers are pretty sorry. Make sure that you're using the ASIO drivers for lower latency. That should be an option in your device setup or input options in your multitracking program.
Jul 19, 2006 01:59 pm That seemed to work pretty well. Thanks guys. It still doesn't sound as good as I'd like it to though.....it seems if I go for a heavily distorted amp model, it loses all kinds of quality when recorded. Anyone else have this problem? The pod pro manual says to turn up the channel volume and output all the way, but that causes unwanted distortion, and when you turn it down, it doesn't have as much oompf.
Jul 19, 2006 02:13 pm what exactly do ya mean by "looses all kinds of quality"?? what kinda noizes are you gettin'? clicks and pops? like the audio is 'struggling' to keep up? nothing should be 'loosing quality' ...something isn't right in your system somewhere. does it still have the same effect if you bypass the line 6?
Jul 19, 2006 02:22 pm Others here have said that heavy distortion doesn't record well. it turns to mush (WYD, above, being one of them).
I'm thinking you need to look at the big picture, getting a good signal takes gain staging. Getting a good sound takes good practices, not volume.
If the sound is good, it's good. Even when quiet. Then you can boost up the volume later. But when tracking and mixing, you want to only be in a certain range of signal strength, enough to be over the noise, and have a thick signal, but not so much to clip.
The volume comes later.
Please disregard if you're already working along these lines, i'm just kicking out ideas, if you haven't already thought of them.
Jul 19, 2006 03:00 pm It's just not sounding as good as I imagined it would....the noises I am having problems with are open palm mute ring outs, it causes too much speaker vibration. And a lot of the amp models don't produce crisp chrord progressions, they seem to get ran together. I'm sure it will just take some time and tweaking to find a sound I am happy with. Thanks for the help.
Jul 19, 2006 03:16 pm does it sound the same when you hook headphones up directly to the pod??? i'm tryin' to figure out if the problem is in the pod or the computer.
Jul 19, 2006 05:39 pm Chris I think you are right in thinking its just a matter of tweaking. If you back off of the presence a little that might help.
Jul 19, 2006 08:30 pm I use my PODxt analog into a Delta 44 or my ESI all the tiem without any issues. With the PC you have you should have no problems getting latency down to less then 10ms in Sonar 4 with the Delta. YOu do need to make sure the Delta settings and the Sonar settinsg match as well. And do use the ASIO drivers for sure. As for the sound going in. Go ahead and turn up the output on the POD, use the Channel volume to bring it down slightly if needed. Then use the Delta contrl panel to bring it to an acceptable level going into Sonar. It is OK to have Sonar open and then open the Delta panel and make your settings and watcht the meters in Sonar as well to get your input level set up corrrectly. This will eliminate digital clipping which might be giving you some of the noise you are getting.
And indeed, cut back on the presence if you are using factory patches. And yes it does take somt time to learn the set up you are using and get the sound you want.
Noize
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