Cakewalk Sonar 5 Producer

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Member Since: Jun 27, 2006

Is there any great benefit in using Sonar 5 with Windows XP x64 rather than 32bit XP?

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Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jun 29, 2006 10:29 am

ya, sonar 5 has been compiled to run native in 64bit mode. I'd believe there'd be a substantial performance boost.

It will also run in 32bit mode on non-64bit windows as well, so you don't have to be 64bit for it to work.



Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 29, 2006 10:36 am

keep in mind you need a motherboard/chipset that's 64 bit aswell.....the performance boost is in several areas...one it's supposed to be easier on your processor (although i donno how). B. you've got more headroom (the distance from noizefloor to clip) and three, the detail of reverb and overall imaging and other effects is way 'clearer'.

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Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jun 29, 2006 10:40 am

Thanks guys...my reason for asking is that I've just bought an Emu xboard but they don't seem to do 64bit drivers for it...their Soundcards yes...but their midi controllers no......try and figure that one out! Looks like I may need to go back to 32 bit windows.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 29, 2006 10:52 am

midi has no need for anykinda bit depth...actually i think midi is 'technically' one bit.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jun 29, 2006 12:48 pm

I had a problem with x64 with my sound interface, the ESP1010. Windows could detect that something was there, but it couldn't tell what it was, and hence, couldn't locate the drivers for it.

A back-rev to XP32 SP2 fixed the problem right up.

(i know that's not a controller, but figured I'd add my .02$us, as it's a driver / x64 issue)

I'm thinking that ESP will have drivers for x64, but there're not there yet.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 29, 2006 05:39 pm

yeah it's hard but i think i'm gonna wait for windows vista to come out and get all the buggs out before i get my computer....grrr i thought i was content in 32 bit land.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jun 29, 2006 07:12 pm

DT3K, I run it in Windows XP 32 bit and I simply run the 64 bit double precision audio engine. IT will run the app in 64 bit even in Windows XP. IT is kind of a fake out way of doing it but it works well.

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Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jun 30, 2006 04:05 am

I've actually got the soundcard working fine in x64 now, but I had to revert back to the ASIO drivers as the WDM drivers were causing distortion. As soon as I get my midi cable I can test the keyboard....which is using the native driver in XP

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jun 30, 2006 10:33 pm

The ASIO drivers are usually the better choice anyway.

Let us know how the midi controller works in 64 is youwould. I am curious as are others I am sure.

Member
Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jul 03, 2006 08:29 am

Hi Noize it did work...but I've decided to roll back to 32 bit anyway....it was just too much messing about with x64 and I couldn't be sure the xboard stuff would work correctly.

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Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jul 03, 2006 08:31 am

Another question.....would Wavelab be a good addition to my setup e.g. Wavelab Essentials.....or would I not need it with Cakewalk Sonar Producer......pros...cons?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 03, 2006 08:34 am

Wavelab is a cool application for mastering whether you "need it" or not is pretty much up to you. All of the most common things Wavelab does can be found for free in Audacity audacity.sourceforge.net

One app for mastering that rocks and everybody should have is HarBal

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Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jul 03, 2006 08:53 am

Thanks...but does Wavelab Essentials, which I assume is a cut down version, have enough functionality for good mastering?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 03, 2006 09:08 am

Wavelab Essentials is pretty much the same thing as Audacity from what I understand...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 03, 2006 08:42 pm

What dB said!

I will be very honest though. I use the full versioin of Wavelab. But I also have been known to do a premaster right out of Sonar as well. It does have the tools to do a fair job. Not nearly what I have in Wavelab, but it is presentable.

Now that said, yes Wavelab essentials is on the same level as Audacity. Audacity will do 16, 24 and 32 bit float at up to 96khz sample rate. So it is equal to or better then essentials in that respect. Audacity supports VST and has their own native pluggins as well to start with. They also link to a few free ones that are very good. And having said that, there are a ton of very good freeware pluggins out there at places like KVR and the like.

I guess if the money is no object then essentials comes with a pretty good sweet of goodies, but if you want to save a little bit then Audacity is a killer application for the purpose.

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Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jul 04, 2006 04:54 am

thanks guys..I will look at these more closely.

If using Audacity....any recommendations for burning to CD?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 04, 2006 05:49 am

Burning to CD I use Nero 7...it's the bomb! CD's, DVD's, tray liners, backup apps...it rocks.

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Since: Jun 27, 2006


Jul 04, 2006 08:36 am

cheers dB

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 04, 2006 08:41 am

In case you care, here is my look at Nero www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=702

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