Recording a Death Metal Band...
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Posted on Jun 10, 2006 03:47 pm
jimmyboy
Member Since: Sep 08, 2005
OK, I told my frind I would record his death metal band so I can build up a broad portfolio and record as many different type of band as possible.
Anyway, they want to achieve as heavy a sound as possible using the gear I have. Im ok with the drum side of thigs, iv learnt from my own previous recording just to compress the snare a bit more.As for the bass, i was thinking of giving it slight distortion to make it heavier but not muddy.
The guitar is where im having the problem. These guys have a really heavy distortion and what it to sound that way on the recording. I have read that the best way to achieve a very heavy sound it to use alot of layers of a mild distortion.
Anybody have any experience with this type of band? I would appreciate any tips!
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zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jun 10, 2006 04:35 pm hardcore kickdrums need triggers... you'll kill yourself trying to get something that can cut through. Also learn/google compression "ducking"...and probably duck everything except vocals with the kick...
I max out the gain on hardcore vocals...
Josh RoseJR ProductionsMember
Since: Mar 03, 2005
Jun 10, 2006 05:19 pm Try to listen to a lot of deathmetal and take some notes on specific things. Clicky kick which usually comes from triggers as zek said. Theres also a decent amount of low end in the guitar. snare drum usually has a lot of crack. Gain is key on vocals, and for screams, try using 4 or more takes for a really thick scream sound.
Jun 10, 2006 07:05 pm To start triggering, what would be the best way to go to purchase what is needed from my understanding you need the triggers then the rack piece with the sounds on it? I've been interested in looking into them.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 10, 2006 07:27 pm What you have read is correct on getting a good low end distorted sound. It is in the layers, not the shere volume of one guitar. I tend to use at least a couple of mics on each guitar cabinet going to seperate tracks. You must be carefull though and make sure you dont end up with pahse problems using multiple mics on the cab. But several layers of a mildly distorted guitar is the best way tio achieve a good guitar sound without overloading the rest of the mix.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jun 10, 2006 07:45 pm for just triggering the kick ... I'm not sure how to do it in Cubase... but basically you record the kick... so the kick signal is reasonably isolated (usually from the snare) then you run the kick tract through an audio to midi converter... because it just needs to detect the volume of the signal and not the pitch a something like SONAR' Detect Midi Timing worked great for me. Then you take that midi signal and use it to trigger a software sampler with a kick sound that works for you.
Josh RoseJR ProductionsMember
Since: Mar 03, 2005
Jun 10, 2006 08:22 pm Thats one way to do it but otherwise there are specific modules that you can buy that sense when a drum is hit and triggers a drum sound.
Jun 10, 2006 09:28 pm If they want the recording of their band to sound like they sound, your job is to get the best possible reproduction. If the guitar sounds like (?), then you mic it and record it as accurately as you can. It's likely the band members will not believe that they actually sound like your high fidelity rendering of their performance. That's when your customer service skills come in.
Good luck!
Herb
Jun 14, 2006 04:01 pm I was hoping to have the guitars recorded directly through the toneport so as I could have more control over the sound but I it would give better results Ill record using mics.
Triggering the bass drums is no problem, i just use the bass kick from my e-kit.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jun 14, 2006 06:57 pm By all means, if you can get a patch worked up or they find one they like use the Toneport. I havent recorded al ive amp in well over two years. And on my own stuff I havent used a live amp since the POD first came out.
