Computer shopping...need some help

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Appenine
Member Since: Dec 13, 2004

Okay, I'm computer shopping now for a new DAW-specific system. Probably looking to spend between $600-$900 or so.

Based on what I've read here, I've got certain things that I'm planning on having, regardless of the system in question:

- 1 GB RAM
- Two HDs, probably an 80 and a 160 (might post-add the second HD later if it's cheaper)
- DVD +/-RW burner


Now, I've got three questions:

1) In terms of sound recording, what's the best processor type? AMD Athlon 64, Pentium 4, or something else? Is there a minimum GHz I should keep above? What's the deal with these dual-core processors...do they make a difference? And is there much difference in processing speed for these applications between the Athlon and the Sempron?

2) What's the best route to go in terms of where to get a new system? I've gone down the Dell route and that's led to all the problems I've had so far, so I'll be avoiding them. Are the other "mass producer" companies going to have similar issues? Should I get it pieced together somewhere else? If so, does anyone have any suggestions for a good company to do this through?

3) If I do indeed piece it together, does anyone have a particular motherboard they'd suggest? I've got a list of them, but I have very little idea what distinguishes them, or what kind of effect they'll have on sound recording capacity.

Also, do regular PCI cards fit into PCI-X slots, or is that a different protocol?


Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to do my homework, and I figure that the assembled knowledge on this message board is a valuable resource that I'd like to tap. :)

Thanks in advance.

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Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


May 16, 2006 08:16 am

I just went down this route, here's my stuff:

MB: I went with biostar tforce4 ultra. It's got the nvidea 4 ultra chipset I was looking for. Biostar's top-o-line at the time. I avoided the VIA chipset for DAW use. Abit & Asus were other contenders I was entertaining.

Chip: AMD 3500+ Venice core. It's 64 bit, so I can upgrade to 64bit windows when it matures.

Memory: 1 gig corsair xms. Good recommondations on newegg reviews.

HD: 160g 2 partitions, OS and Storage. 80g, for tracking.

430w Power supply, Thermaltake TR2.

Video: eVGA 6200 Geforce dualhead - PCI x16

PCI and PCIx are not the same slot. PCIx 1 is very small (about an inch), and PCI x16 is longer than normal PCI.

I have a ESI ESP1010 interface, which is PCI.

It's all running well together so far, though I haven't put it through full out tests yet.

I got all PC parts from Newegg, got the interface from djdeals in fla. I got two 17" LCD from tigerdirect.

PC parts (minus LCDs) from newegg was 700 or so.


Oh yeah, i got one of those lightscribe drives. It works quite well, but takes 1/2 hour to burn the visual image.

Appenine
Member
Since: Dec 13, 2004


May 16, 2006 01:36 pm

Great info...thanks pjk.

Does the increased power supply really help? What does that do for you?


Anyway, I'm piecing together a system...here's what I've come up with so far:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9 nForce4 Chipset MB w/ LAN, USB2.0, IEEE, & AUDIO. 1 PCI-X16, 2 PCI-X1, 3 PCI slots.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ dual-core w/HT (2.2 GHz)

Power: NZXT PF500 500w power supply

RAM: 1024 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR2 Corsair RAM

Video: NVIDIA Geoforce 6200 Graphics (256MB)

HD: Two 160MB SATA-II 7200 RPM Western Digital Caviar HDs

Optical: LG GWA-4161 16x DVD +-R/+-RW Dual Layer


How's that look?

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


May 16, 2006 02:01 pm

The good power supply keeps the amperage up on the 12v and 5v rails. You could have 5 or 6 devices, each taking 12v, so the amperage could drop to where some device would bauble.

Not good when tracking. Seeing as how the hard drive could be writing constantly (as opposed to normal windows use), then the extra juice can keep funny unexplainable problems, or glitches from occuring.

Everything else looks great. There's some ideas that getting more ram is a good idea, but I'm pretty content with 1g for now. I'm not doing much in way of multiple softsynths, or huge libraries, so I don't think I'll tax out my memory for now.

I was looking at that MB (or similar) as well. The GB with GeForce 4 chipset.

I was tempted in the dualcore as well, but just couldn't ramp up more $$$ for the difference at the time. I don't think I'll be bothered by it though, I'm pretty sure my 3500, plus sata2 drives will keep up with whatever I put at it.

I just noticed, some here (notably the owner) stay away from western digital drives. He says he's seen too many of them returned, or seen them dead early, so, that's something to consider. I went with seagate myself.

Appenine
Member
Since: Dec 13, 2004


May 16, 2006 03:53 pm

Okay, well, I'm glad I'm opting for the additional power, then...that is, if I read your message correctly. :)

I figure I can always add more RAM later. 1 GB has worked fine on my Dell system, even with the recording setup.

I hadn't seen that about the Western Digital drives. This particular manufacturer/vendor seems to have them in abundance, so that's why I was gonna go that way. That particular drive seems to have gotten pretty good reviews on Newegg, so...I dunno. Hmm.

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004


May 16, 2006 07:10 pm

I've recently put a gaming machien together seperate to my DAW.

I chose an AMD 4000+ for the gaming rig and while it's awsome for games it's crap for day to day tasks.

Gaming RIG

PCU - AMD 4000+
GPE - Nvidia 7800 GTX EE 500mb
RAM - 1gb
HDD - 2 * 120 gb

As i said, ROCKS, for games but multitasking just normal apps is awful so in my experiance i'd give an AMD a miss.

I THINK that Intel have a better Maths co-processor so is better at handling different tasks (especially with HT).

I know a few people here quite succsesfully use AMD so this might be a problem i can fix some how.

With my p4 3.2 - never had an issue, and it only had 512k 2nd level cache.


Appenine
Member
Since: Dec 13, 2004


May 17, 2006 10:53 am

Bleak,

Thanks for the info. It's given me something to think about. The P4 dual-cores are actually cheaper than the AMDs...hmm.

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