Feb 09, 2006 09:47 am As I recently said in another thread, I played bass in live situations for years and used a simple $25 Rapco DI...it never failed...
I'll look for a link...
Direct Input boxes - recommendations?
Posted on Feb 09, 2006 09:45 am
Bryan316
Member Since: Sep 23, 2005
Here's what I need. Got a Direct Out from my bass amp, but it doesn't have a ground lift. I'm sure I could probably spend a few hours cracking my amp open and modify it to lift the ground from the plug, but that'll just end up with a melted circuit board because Murphy has pwned my *** before with his damned Law.
So I'm looking for:
Ground Lift
Balanced XLR ins and outs
AC power as well as battery
Maybe a signal attenuator, even though my amp already has a 20db cut switch in case its running too hot.
Not the size of a shoe box.
My guitarist has a H&K RedBox, but it's his, and I don't wanna rely on borrowing it. I've looked at Behringer's DI100, but it's battery only, and once I velcro it down inside my rack, I don't wanna have to change batteries or have it go dead during a live show. I'd rather it come on when I turn my rack's power strip on. I've looked at the ART PDB passive box, but it doesn't have balanced inputs. Nady has the ADI-2 but it's brand new and I can't find any info on it. I just discovered the Behringer Tube Ultragain Mic100 Preamp, but that might work better for recording mics, and not my amp.
Any decent recommendations?
Besides buying a new bass amp?
Especially since I spent 2 hours on the Ampeg SVT6-Pro last week?
And it already has a balanced, attenuable direct out with a ground lift switch?
*G.A.S. kicking in...*
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Feb 09, 2006 09:47 am As I recently said in another thread, I played bass in live situations for years and used a simple $25 Rapco DI...it never failed...
I'll look for a link...
Feb 09, 2006 09:51 am Actually, mine was always 1/4" input XLR output, had groundlift and all that...no battery or power of any sort required, just simple HiZ to LoZ...
Feb 09, 2006 11:07 am Yeah I was hoping to use a 3/4-ft XLR cable from the amp to the box. Nice and simple.
The Behringer has everything except the AC power.
Now here's a jimmy-rigging question... if I buy a 9VDC wall wart, cut and solder a 9-volt battery terminal to it, and plug it into the Behringer's battery connection, will that suffice? Or will I burn my rack to the ground?
Feb 09, 2006 11:27 am Radial DI/ReAmp boxes work and sound very well. We have 2 and choose them above our redboxes and countrymen
Feb 09, 2006 12:00 pm Quote:
if I buy a 9VDC wall wart, cut and solder a 9-volt battery terminal to it, and plug it into the Behringer's battery connection, will that suffice?
I think that the battery input is expecting an DC current, and a wall wart adaptor will supply a AC current. I don't think that'll work.
Feb 09, 2006 12:35 pm as long as it says VDC, then it's DC. It should say on the wart. Mind you don't underpower your device, as I don't know what type of current 9volt batteries can supply. The device should say how much it needs. As long as the wall-wart is more than what the device says, you're OK.
i.e. if device says 300ma, 9VDC, then you can use a wallwart that's over 300ma, but not under.
Some wallwarts make AC, some DC.
Feb 09, 2006 02:04 pm Hmm... checked a Boss PSA-120...
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
Says it outputs 9V DC at 200mA.
I should go shtick my multimeter to my guitarist's PSA-120, and test it to see if its truly DC. I have a feeling this would work, but I'll make sure to keep the reciept if I fry it. *evilgrin*
Feb 09, 2006 02:05 pm I've said it before and I'll say it again; the SansAmp for bass is awesome. My bass player who is a tone-fanatic used it on our last recording session and it sounds really really good (He plays a Quantum 5 Modulus through a Eden Head and Eden or Aguilar Cab). We have recordings of just this Modulus and the SansAmp and ones where his Eden and Cab is mic'd, honestly the SansAmp sounds better. For a live situation I bet it would work very well. Plus, you can dial in almost any tone you're looking for. Goodluck on your search!
Cheers,
Al
Feb 09, 2006 02:15 pm Quote:
Some wallwarts make AC, some DC.
I've never seen an AC wallwart. I thought the whole idea of a wallwart was to convert AC to DC??
Feb 09, 2006 02:25 pm My Sans-Amp Bass D.I. Driver has never let me down. It's wonderful.
So for DI (at a price - these are $180+ US), these are about as good as I've found.
It has all the features you asked for, plus more.
Flexibility, tone, compact size, ruggedness, good looks, and did I mention tone? It was also run on phantom power. Your MIC100 is also a splendid piece of kit (IMHO), and will do the job in a pinch. Make sure you give it room in your rack (it gets warm), and be gentle with that tube.
For recording, I'm currently using the Sans-Amp Tri-AC. It has an SVT sound that I'd have killed for in my gigging days. Not taking away from the bass driver DI, but this is just the new kiddy. Same company.
I also discovered the "Helian First Bass Amp" VST from KVR recently. I LOVE it. Good "round" sound. Not impressed with the "gain" channel, but it's clean side is very pleasing.
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